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EU RAISED HAND VOTE A FARCE WITH UP TO 600 VOTES AN HOUR

 

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How the EP voting system makes a mockery of democracy.

 

Eurofacts

12th May, 2006

Vol 11 No 15

 

(It is likely that many EU directives do not reflect the views of those who voted on them)

 

[In plain language a large number of directives were passed by the EP, which its members had not voted through.]

By

 

Graham Booth

 

UKIP MEP for the South West

 

Last October, during one of the European Parliament’s monthly voting sessions, the acting President Antonios Trakatellis called for a vote on an amendment and surveyed the 600-odd arms waving like corn in the field.

 

He declared that “it was approved”.

 

Several MEPs doubted he had made the right decision and called for an electronic check, which showed that it had actually been rejected by a massive

502 votes to 128.

 

If an error of such magnitude had been made by a fledgling government in a developing third world country it would either have been greeted with howls of derision or possibly with sympathy and offers of financial aid to install proper electronic equipment.

 

BUT THIS IS THE

 

EUROPEAN UNION

 

 

-which claims to be the largest trading bloc in the world and whose directives affect the lives of all 400 million of its citizens.

 

Since the EU’s creation in 1957, with just 6 member - states, it has always relied on voting by a show of hands. Although electronic equipment was installed some 20 years ago it is only used when specifically requested, or as a check when the ‘count’ of hands is in doubt. Now that there are 25 members with 20 different languages the system clearly doesn’t work.

 

That incident in October 2005 persuaded me to compile a dossier of such errors. A significant number of wrong calls have been corrected by electronic checks since then but Mario Mauro who was acting President on January 18th this year, hit the jackpot when he declared a vote on an amendment to Climate Change directive “rejected” when the electronic check that was called for showed that it had been approved by an astonishing

 

574 votes [for]

 

To 41! [Against]

 

Possibly more sinister have been the number of times when calls for a check have fallen on deaf ears and have been ignored, so that we shall never know if those results were correct.

 

Frequently remarks such as

 

“We think it’s carried”,

 

“looks adopted”

 

“We think it is approved”

 

Etc….

 

are made but never checked.

 

The speed at which the voting is carried out is quite ridiculous and is another contributory factor (either by accident or design) in achieving incorrect results -

We sometimes get through

 

Over 600 amendments in an hour (one every 5 seconds!)

 

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Fraction of a Second

 

The English interpretation of the call to vote sounds like

 

‘those infavourable those against- abstentions’

 

-as if it were one word. MEPs voting in favour can start to raise a hand as soon as the amendment number is given but those wishing to vote against have only a fraction of a second to raise a hand and if it is not lowered immediately it is counted as an abstention.

 

This wording clearly favours those MEPs who are voting in favour. Sure enough when I checked one recent batch

 

of 202 votes

 

that I had recorded, 155 ‘were approved’ and only 47 ‘rejected.

 

A large proportion of amendments as well as full directives are voted on by a show of hands, so it is very likely that many of the directives that are now ruling our lives DO NOT correctly represent the wishes of the MEPs who voted on them.

 

All of threes facts have been reported to the President of the European Parliament, Sr. Josep Borrell, by myself and by Vladimir Zelezny (of Czech Republic) with a request for full electronic voting in future.

 

Sr. Borrell has defended the present system and has correctly pointed out that electronic voting would be slower than a show of hands but he has, nevertheless, given his permission for us to forward a ‘Proposal for Amendment of Parliament’s Rules of Procedure’, which my colleague and I did

on April 18th, 2006.

 

Full electronic voting would at least ensure that every vote is correctly recorded:

 

‘It will be interesting to see what the Committee on Constitutional Affairs considers to be most important- accuracy or a prompt lunch.

 

If the present system continues it does beg the question:

 

What is the point of 732 MEPs making an arduous journey to Strasbourg once a month, where voting should be the key part of the proceedings, only to find that constant errors are making a mockery of their efforts?

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86 per cent against EU Constitution in UK

 

A joint survey by the Robert Schuman Foundation and EU Barometer finds that, amongst those countries, which haven’t yet ratified the EU Constitution,

 

Support in the UK is all of 14 per cent

 

with those AGAINST at

 

86 per cent

 

No wonder the word[s] EU Constitution never passes Blair’s lips.

 

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MAY/06

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LATE NEWS

From the

 

 
Daily Mail
Wednesday May, 17-2006

 

By

 

James Slack

Home Affairs Editor

 

ROMANIA and Bulgaria remain on course to join the EU at the start of next year despite concerns about the rampant organised crime.

 

Residents of the two impoverished countries are expected to be granted FULL RIGHTS to LIVE and WORK in Britain from January 1, sparking another influx of Eastern European migrants.

 

There are also fears of illegal

 

IMMIGRATION

 

-using passports obtained fraudulently in Bulgaria and Romania.

 

Criminal gangs in Russia and the Ukraine are certain to take advantage of the situation.

 

The EU Commission has the power to delay accession beyond next year, but yesterday it opted for words rather than action.

 

It gave the two countries five months to sort out organised crime, even though they have already had up to five years to bring it under control while talks over their membership have been taking place.

 

A decision on whether they will be allowed to join next year will now be made in October-2006, rather than yesterday as originally planned.

 

Commission president Jose Manuel Barroso said:

 

‘Bulgaria needs to demonstrate evidence of resolve in the fight against high-level corruption, investigations and judicial proceedings.

 

It must reform the judiciary and remove ambiguities about judicial independence.

 

 

[We wonder how the Commission President managed to keep a straight face -after all his shower must have the most corrupt body of individuals in the world as their own accounts have not been passed for over 11 years.

 

What we suggest or better want Mr Barroso is to leave your corrupt totalitarian police state as quickly as possible and leave the German /Franco pact to shoulder the extra expense -which will certainly lead to the END of the European Union which will be better for all concerned.

 

One of our greatest Prime Ministers William Pitt, (1759-1806) son of the Earl of Chatham (1708-1778) said the following true words, which certainly apply in the above case:

 

‘England has saved herself by her exertions; and will, as I trust, save Europe by her example’

 

(9 Nov-1805)

 

What better example than for England to leave the EU-we leave it to our sister nations to decide their own fate another example which we wish they would follow?

 

To continue:

 

[Mr Barroso also said]

 

‘Romania also needs to continue efforts in the fight against corruption in terms of further investigations and a fully functioning judicial system.’

 

But he made it clear that he hoped to allow both countries to join the EU.

 

[This is typical EU strategy as the more heads there are in the European Police State proletariat the better to hide the corruption or at least pass it around so that it disappears into the black hole which has been there since its beginnings over 50 years ago.]

 

To continue:

 

Estimates on the numbers likely to head straight to Britain from Bulgaria and Romania range from 55,000, from the Left-of-centre IPPR think-tank, to

 

MIGRATIONWATCH

 

-UK’s 300,000.

 

Sir Andrew Green, Migrationwatch’s chairman, said this figure was based on the GOVERNMENT’S OWN METHODOLOGY and a repeat of the decision for the UK to ‘go it alone’ [Maintain an open-door policy] in not imposing restrictions on free movement of new members.

 

When the EU expanded Eastwards in 2004 to take in 10 new countries including Poland, Britain chose not to limit the numbers arriving here, UNLIKE:

 

France

 

Germany

 

Italy

 

Netherlands

 

Austria.

 

This was blamed on the GOVERNMENT being so hopelessly wrong on the numbers who would come here. It predicted

 

13,000 a year

 

compared to the

 

345,000

 

-who actually arrived here?

 

[Well! when the shambles of supposed LAW and ORDER in our country was highlighted a few days ago it showed that that the extra laws on the statute book particularly the 1998 Human Rights Act had made the situation even worse as even Tony Blair has NOW himself admitted.

 

There cannot be many people in our country who are now are extremely angry when they see how they were deceived in 1997 by the youthful and fresh complexion of Tony Blair ‘the people’s slave’ who has certainly done a great deal of good in making many voters NOW realise that ONLY with

PR-Proportional Representation

 

- will their be a voice for millions of people in this country who wish most urgently to leave the expensive -corrupt totalitarian police state called by the name of the

 

EUROPEAN UNION.

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MAY -2007

 

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Elections in the British One Party State

If you vote Conservative, Labour, Lib-Dem, UKIP or the BNP, you'll be voting for the EU dictatorship. All five party leaderships are EU controlled. That's why your vote doesn't make a difference - all these five parties have the same policies: the EU's policies.

The 17 most senior politicians in the Conservative, Lib Dem and Labour parties, including Ken Clarke, Francis Maude, Cameron, William Hague, George Osborne, Nick Clegg, Brown, David and Ed Milliband, Ed Balls, Peter Mandleson are Bilderbergers, the 140 strong band of ultra senior Freemasons who are bribed by the EU to build the EU dictatorship.

No Bilderberger, Freemason or Common Purpose graduate should ever be allowed to hold public office.

UKIP and the BNP are honey traps to neutralise activists: UKIP is riddled with Freemasons and Common Purpose like a cancer, and the BNP controlled by the Edgar Griffin (father) and son Nick Freemasonry family. The 350,000 freemasons and the 40,000 strong Common Purpose Organisation are the (mostly unknowing) foot soldiers of the EU in Britain. (Which makes the BNP the easiest party to clean up - get rid of the Griffins, and put in a real anti-EU leadership.)

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THE EDP HAS BEEN CRITICAL OF THE MANAGEMENT AND LEADERSHIP OF THE UKIP FOR SOME TIME NOW AS IS SHOWN IN A NUMBER OF BULLETINS  OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS WHERE WE HAVE CRITICISED THEIR LACK LUSTRE PERFORMANCE AS THEY FAILED TO MOTIVATE THEIR MEMBERSHIP TO A MORE DETERMINED CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE CAMPAIGN WHICH WOULD HAVE MADE THE GOVERNMENTS TREMBLE BUT THEY HAD NO WORRY BECAUSE THEY HAD THEIR OWN PERSONS IN CHARGE AT THE TOP OF THE ORGANISATION.  THIS FIGHTING SPIRIT HAS BEEN LACKING AND WE CAN CONFIRM THIS OURSELVES BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN OUTSIDE PARLIAMENT WHEN A MARCH WAS CANCELLED - AND WATCH THE FARCE WHEN CANDLES WERE HELD AND THOUSANDS OF LETTERS SENT TO MPS WHO KNEW WHERE TO DISPOSES OF THEM -AND ALL TO NO AVAIL.  IF YOU ARE A MEMBER OF UKIP YOU HAVE BEEN BETRAYED BY YOUR OWN LEADERSHIP SOME APPEAR ON THE ALEX JONES SHOW WHICH HAS BEEN UNDER CLOSE SPOTLIGHT RECENTLY AS BEING CLOSE TO AN ISRAELI SECURITY FIRM DETAILS ON OUR WEBSITE .    IRONICALLY IT WAS A CHANCE LOOK ON THE INTERNET A FEW YEARS AGO  TO COME UPON THAT SITE WHICH OPENED OUR MIND TO THE ILLUMINATI.   THOUGH WE HAVE SOME DETAILS OF THE BILDERBERGERS ON OUR SITE  A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO WE FAILED TO DO MORE RESEARCH- WE ALL HAVE TO LEARN.  THE FAILURE OF UKIP WE HAVE SUSPECTED  FOR MANY YEARS   THAT MANY AT THE TOP OF THEIR ORGANISATION MIGHT BE UNDERCOVER MEMBERS OF THE ILLUMINATI.  IT IS A FAVOURITE TRICK OF THEIRS TO SUPPORT ANY PARTY OR ORGANISATION AT THE OUTSET WHATEVER ITS POLICY AS IT ALLOWS THEM TO PUT THEIR OWN PEOPLE IN TO CONTROL ITS POLICES AS THEY BEHIND THE SCENES SUPPLY THE VITAL FINANCIAL SUPPORT.

  Our intention is not to benefit from this disaster as since the 1999 European Election we have NOT! accepted a DONATION! from ANYONE! and we closed membership also because we did not wish to split the vote for UKIP but have stated in the past that we would contest another election if it was ever necessary to enter into the affray again and with the reputation of UKIP under scrutiny we will keep our options OPEN!   As we mentioned some time ago we have been almost two decades on the campaign trail to free our once FREE INDEPENDENT NATION STATE of ENGLAND from the SATANIC EU and those who have for centuries have planned for an EVIL ONE-WORLD CORPORATION/GOVERNMENT and EXTERMINATE! at least 5 BILLION of the WORLD'S POPULATION and therefore if we are right about those mentioned above they are not only TRAITORS to their COUNTRY but also a THREAT to WORLD PEACE.   However, of late, matters have NOT! been going well for the ILLUMINATI as you will observe BELOW.

 

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Others shall right the wrong,-

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Hail to the coming singers!

Hail to the brave light-bringers!

Forward I reach and above

All that they sing and dare.

 

The airs of heaven blow o'er me;

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Of what mankind shall be'-

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My freehold of thanksgiving.-

 

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