The Lisbon Treaty: was it an historic turning point?

 

Eurofacts-2rd November,2007

Vol 13 No 2

 

WAS THURSDAY 18th OCTOBER 2007 the DAY on which BRITAIN ceased to be

AN INDEPENDENT NATION STATE?

OR

will historians writing a decade hence pick some other date?

 

In according with the strategy laid down by the EU 's founding father Jean Monnet, the transfer of powers from member states to the institutions of European government has been gradual.

A case can be made for saying that previous EU treaties transferred equal or greater powers from member states to the European institutions, but that is to miss the MAIN POINT.

From Rome to Lisbon the EU treaties can be seen as staging posts on the route to a unitary European state. Historians are nevertheless conclude that

18th October, 2007 -"Black Thursday"

[or in our words "Traitors Day"]

as it may come to be known - was an important

TURNING POINT.

This was the moment when the pretence that

NATIONAL INDEPENDENCE

could be preserved in the context of a wider political union become not merely a

 FRAUD

but an obvious one.

AT THAT MOMENT, the ratification of the treaty in sight, all the main building bricks of the new

EUROPEAN STATE

-in

COMMISSION

in

PARLIAMENT

in

SUPREME COURT

and

CONSTITUTION

-were firmly in place.

It was at this point that the claim that

 SOVEREIGNTY

was being pooled rather than surrendered and that

BRITISH INDEPENDENCE

consequently remained intact was at last exposed as

NONSENSE

and therefore became counter-productive as a means of as assuaging public concerns.

THAT IS THE POINT WHICH WE HAVE NOW ARRIVED

[AFTER 35 YEARS

OF

LIES]

 

Britain's involvement in the

EUROPEAN PROJECT

began with the

LIE

-that there would be

NO ESSENTIAL TRANSFER OF

SOVEREIGNTY

a

DECEPTION

upon which a whole series of lesser deceptions have subsequently been constructed.

 

It is entirely in keeping with the history of British membership of the EU that the Government's position on the Lisbon Treaty should be based on a

LIE

of almost equal magnitude

THE LIE

that the Treaty is not of a constitutional character, even though it gives the EU

LEGAL PERSONALITY

Abolishes the NATIONAL VETO

in

61 Areas

Creates a FOREIGN MINISTER

and

DIPLOMATIC SERVICE

in all but name as well as a

PERMANENT PRESIDENCY

while providing the means by which further powers can be transferred to

BRUSSELS.

In two respects the treaty is worse than Giscard's original document:

It is less honest in n that it seeks to conceal its own

SCOPE and PURPOSE

and it is almost entirely

UNINTELLIGIBLE.

 

Does Mr Brown believe in the provisions of the

TREATY

to whose defence he must now devote considerable political resources?

THE QUESTION IS ACADEMIC

As Daniel Hannan has written, whatever he thinks of it Brown is too establishment-minded, too risk-averse, too lacking in conviction and courage either to perform a historic volte face or to run the risk of running a campaign

WHICH HE MIGHT LOSE.

The British are traditionally slow to recognise challenges to their essential national interest, but they are currently taking such tardiness

TO NEW LIMITS

Indeed the present national obtuseness is of such an order that even mild-mannered eurosceptics, the kind who are not demonstrably swivel-eyed or prone to foam-flecked denunciations of all things European, are driven to despair

WHY

-is not

TRAFALGAR SQUARE

full of those angrily protesting against so obvious

BETRAYAL OF TRUST?

And yet it is still just possible that

"Black Thursday"

could turn out to be a very different kind of turning point.

To begin with, ratification may not turn out to be painless as Mr Brown's allies suggest.

By allowing a lengthy period for Parliamentary ratification the Prime Minister believes he can open divisions within the Conservative Party of the kind that emerged during the parliamentary battles over

MAASTRICHT.

He is surely deluded. Treaty ratification is bound to be a bigger problem for the incumbent government than for the

OPPOSITION.

And unlike Mr Brown, Mr Major never

PROMISED

a

REFERENDUM.

 

The more the

PUBLIC

learn of the

LISBON TREATY

the less they will like it.

In the past the British public, although inclined to eurosceptism, has put other matters-

CRIME

IMMIGRATION

ECONOMIC WELL-BEING

for example -higher up its list of concerns

THAN

EUROPE.

A line by line examination of the

TREATY

will demonstrate the inextricable link between those concerned and membership of the

[EUROPEAN] UNION.

More than any eurosceptic pamphlet, it will demonstrate the extent to which in these areas membership of the

EUROPEAN UNION

either prevents or inhibits the Government from following policies based on the

NATIONAL INTEREST

[ENGLISH/SCOTTISH/WELSH]

For the first time a majority may come to grasp the enormity of

WHAT IS AT STAKE

and begin to understand that

'EUROPE'

is not just something which happens 'over there'.

Further courageous and principled defiance by eurosceptics within the Labour party such as those that can be expected from Gisela Stuart and Kate Hoey will make Mr Brown's task more difficult, even though they are bound to be subject to blood-curdling threats from the Labour Whips 'OFFICE.

The Government is bound to be scarred and battered in the process but defeat in the

HOUSE OF COMMONS

remains an outside prospect [so close to obtaining their reward in an ELITE ridden

UNITED STATES OF EUROPE]

-unless, of course, a newly elected leader of the Lib-Dems recognises that the biggest blow it can strike against the

LABOUR GOVERNMENT

is to ask it to honour its

MANIFESTO PROMISE

to support the demand for a

REFERENDUM.

Mr Brown is also likely to face difficulties in getting the legislation through the

[HOUSE of] LORDS;

threats by the Upper House to turn back legislation seldom materialise but a group of highly motivated and extremely knowledgeable eurosceptic peers have it within their power to add to the

GOVERNMENT'S ACUTE PUBLIC RELATIONS PROBLEMS.

Already the

REFERENDUM ISSUE

is acting as a recruiting sergeant for the eurosceptic cause; this is becoming more vocal and self-confident, angrier and more determined. Tens of thousands have signed on-line petitions in favour of a plebiscite, while plans for the Westminster rally held on 27th October demonstrate a growing level of cooperation between eurosceptic groups.

[See our bulletin for details of the  botched so-called cooperation between EUROSCEPTIC groups from one who was there - with NO march or rallying speeches from the Queen Elizabeth Conference Hall. WE HAD WARNED on many occasions in the past that unless they UNITED  quickly, then in the words of our greatest War Leader Winston Churchill in his warning of the rise of Hitler and German rearmament to a packed House of Commons in the pre-World War II  'Gathering Storm' years when he forcefully reminded the House, it would  be:

TOO LATE!

and so it has proved TO BE!]

Ratification of the TREATY will not of itself dissipate the head of steam now being built up; indeed it could have exactly the opposite effect.

 

A new pressure group - Global Vision - is already exploiting the referendum issue  to argue for a new relationship with

EUROPE.

Its architects posit the possibility of achieving this without withdrawal from the EU. We frankly doubt whether this is remotely possible. But we welcome a debate on how its objectives might be most effectively achieved because it is at least

25 YEARS OVERDUE.

Meanwhile, the Conservative Party can be seen inching its way to a more robust policy under the impact of events.

[WE DOUBT IT!  they will of course use the opportunity to make party political capital out of the EU issue but their past record had shown that they are not to be trusted. Only a few week's ago after assurances from William Hague that when they are returned to power they would repeal the Lisbon Treaty should it be ratified by PARLIAMENT. Shortly after David Cameron would give no such assurance. We have always considered Mr Nice Guy Dave as the EU man in the shadows to carry on the work of Tony Blair and his refusal to support William Hague's statement is another instance of support for our contention.

The Conservatives have signed the bulk of the EU TREATIES and on the occasion of their Foreign Minister Douglas Hurd signing of the Maastricht Treaty in 1992 was heard after - saying to his colleague Francis Maude

'We'd better find out what we've just signed'

-obviously he felt his colleague at the signing was also as they say 'in the dark'

Since October 10, 2005 we have been made aware that Ted Heath had been a Nazi spy for over 60 years before his death in  that year and that his companions in TREASON were Roy Jenkins and Geoffrey Rippon who were together in Balliol College Oxford in 1938 when the then Master A D Lindsay reported their Nazi spy ring to MI5. There are others with us today who have yet to be revealed. ]

[Eurofacts] -Our conclusion is that historians may conclude that

"Black Thursday"

was the day when Britain finally abandoned its long tradition of self-government, but it is also possible they might conclude that it was the moment when the eurosceptics began a belated but historic fight-back to halt the trend of previous decades and to recover what had been lost.

IT IS UP TO US.

 

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Why the Treaty was meant to be unreadable

 

The Lisbon treaty which EU Prime Ministers signed up to on

18th October,2007

is not unintelligible by accident or design.

Explaining the background to the present text Giuliano Amato, the former Italian prime Minister and one of the principle architects of the rejected [2005] Constitution on which the text has been faithfully based made this clear in a speech in London on 16th July, 2007:

'They [EU leaders] decided that the document should be unreadable. if it is unreadable, it is not constitutional, that was the sort of perception. Should you succeed in understanding it at first sight there might be some reason for a referendum, because it would mean that there is something new'.

The document has been rendered unintelligible through the ingenious ruse of turning proposals contained in Giscard's original constitution into amendments to the existing treaties; these can subsequently only be understood if they are placed in the context of a consolidated version. But when Jens-peter Bonde, the Danish eurosceptic MEP recently pressed the [EU]Commission to [produce such a thing he was told that the Inter Governmental Conference had decided that an official consolidated text, which is expected to run to around

3000 pages,

would only  be published after the TREATY  had been RATIFIED.

[They're not bloody daft those lunatics. Why should they be. They have been pulling the wool over people's eyes for over 35 years. They have counted on the docile attitude of the majority in order to achieve their Super-State and they have not been disappointed though there is still the final hurdle to be overcome but if recent events have any message to give it is that unless the PEOPLE get interested then they deserve the fate that is just around the corner out of sight which will jolt them rigid when the door into SLAVERY is revealed and the door from FREEDOM has been SHUT- possibly for decades to come.]

There could be no clearer evidence that Europe's political leaders

DO NOT WANT

ordinary citizens to read or understand the

 TREATY

UNTIL IT IS

TOO LATE!

TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

In Britain the Government PR machine has been used to stress the allegedly modest nature of the changes compared to previous treaties.

BUT IT IS WORTH POINTING OUT

that

 LISBON

will result in the loss of a greater number of national veto's-

61 in all

-than was the case with any other treaty.

The Treaty of Rome

listed

38 areas

for qualified majority voting

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The Single European Act

listed

12 areas.

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Maastricht Treaty

listed

30

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The Amsterdam Treaty

listed

24

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Nice Treaty

listed

46

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[And to think that so many British politicians over the past 35 years have by stealth and deceit and down-right LIES

are only months for reducing our country to a

PROVINCE of EUROPE.

 

In our first election leaflet in 1997 we asked for

'ENGLAND to AWAKE

BEFORE IT WAS TOO LATE'

regrettably many didn't want to know then and many are still of that mind today in November, 2007 only month's away if we let it happen from the loss of our

CONSTITUTION-CROWN and COUNTRY

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EUROPEAN UNION Q & A

1 EUROFACTS -   THE REALITY BEHIND THE EU

2]   WHAT IS THE POINT OF THE EU

3]   THE TRUTH OF A FEDERAL EUROPE-PARTS1-4

4]   THE 1701 ACT OF SETTLEMENT-WHY IT SHOULD  CONCERN YOU!

5[    THE BRITISH LEGACY -CANADA-AUSTRALIA-NEW ZEALAND

6]    COMMONWEALTH REALMS VERSUS THE NEW CONSTITUTION  OF EUROPE

7]   OUR BASIC LIBERTIES AND FREEDOMS SURRENDERED TO A FOREIGN POWER

8]   MESSAGE FROM AUSTRALIA-SUPPORT THE CROWN

9]   OUR QUEEN AND EU CONSTITUTION

10] VALERY GISCARD'ESTAING -WHY HE IS CALLED X

11]  THE ROTTEN HEART OF EUROPE by BERNARD CONNOLLY

12]   'I SAY WE MUST NOT JOIN EUROPE'-FIELD MARSHALL MONTGOMERY-(1962)

13]  PREVIOUS SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF COMMONS SAYS WE MUST RETAIN OUR ANCIENT CONSTITUTION

14] THE COMMON LAW OF ENGLAND IS THE  LAW OF ENGLISH SPEAKING PEOPLES.

15]  A BETRAYAL OF OUR NATION - CONSPIRATORS NAMED (1993)

16]   WHAT HISTORY TELLS US ABOUT OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CONTINENT

17]    COST of EU to UK-4.8billion = 40 DISTRICT HOSPITALS-EQUIPPED -_STAFFED-AND FUNDED.

18]   WARNING FROM OUR MAN IN WASHINGTON ABOUT THE EURO.

19]     200 MORE REASONS TO WHY TO REJECT THE EURO AND THE EU

20]     100 REASONS TO LEAVE THE EU

21]    THE ENEMY IS EVERYWHERE

22]    UK CONTRIBUTION TO BRUSSELS: BIG INCREASE IN 2005

23]   EU WHISTLEBLOWERS EXPOSE BILLIONS OF EURO FRAUD BUT NOTHING IS DONE

24]    BRITAIN CAN LEAVE THE EU UNILATERALLY AND CEASE PAYMENTS SAYS QUEEN'S COUNSEL

25]    FOREIGN POWERS DIRECT OUR GOVERNMENTS BY PAYOUTS

26]    SIGNS OF AN EU POLICE STATE

27]    NINETY-NINE COUNTRIES HAVE FREE TRADE WITH THE EU-WITHOUT PAYING A CENT TO BRUSSELS.

28]    IT IS TIME TO CONSIDER OURSELVES-IN A COMMONWEALTH FREE TRADE AREA

29]   BRITAIN MUST LEAVE THE EU AS UN SHOW BEST AREA FOR EXPANSION WILL BE USA/ANGLO-SAXON SPHERE

30]    WAVE GOODBYE TO THE EU AND MAKE EUROPE A BETTER PLACE   

31]    LORD STODDART PINS DOWN BLAIR GOVERNMENT ON COST OF EU -JUNE 2007.

32]    BRITISH VOTERS MUST GET A SAY ON NEW EU TREATY-[JUNE-2007]

33]    BLAIR'S LAST TREACHEROUS ACT. THE 60,000 DOLLAR QUESTION IS WHAT WILL MR BROWN DO?-JUNE-2007]

34]   GORDON BROWN WANTS TRUST-BUT WHY WON'T HE TRUST YOU?

35]  HITLER'S PRECEDENT PROVIDED THE MODEL FOR THE EUROPEAN UNION-1930-2007

36]  SAVE YOUR ENGLAND! - SAY NO! TO REGIONS
 

37]   NAZI INTERNATIONAL IN 2007-CLOSER TO YOUR HOME THAN YOU THINK  

38]    A WARNING FROM JAN-2005-TO PRESERVE THE NATION-STATES OF EUROPE-VOTE 'NO' TO THE NEW EU CONSTITUTION (D.T.)

39]    SO WHY DON'T WE LEAVE THE EU. (D.M.)

40]  IF Gordon Brown forces this EU TREATYon us, you can kiss goodbye to DEMOCRACY by Christopher Booker-- D.M. August-2007

41] David Cameron at last is converted to TRUE CONSERVATIVE policy on LAW and ORDER -while a Past Tory Prime Minister is hoping to SAVE YOUR COUNTRY-DO YOU BELIEVE THEM?

42] sO yOU aRE sTILL nOT iNTERESTED iN tHE THREAT TO YOUR FREEDOM and COUNTRY. In OCTOBER 2007 YOUR COMMONS  COULD RATIFY THE NEW TREATY TURNING THE EU INTO A STATE AT WHICH TIME YOUR COUNTRY WILL NO LONGER EXIST - STILL INTERESTED WE HOPE SO!

43]WHY OUR TRAITOROUS PRO-EU MP'S WANT THE BEST OF TWO WORLDS.

44]     WHY SWITZERLAND REJECTS EU MEMBERSHIP-A LESSON FOR ENGLAND

[For hundreds of bulletins about the EU]

 

 

telegraph.co.uk/eureferendum

 

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95% of the

British people want a referendum

* Source YouGov Poll June 2007

A MESSAGE TO ALL MPS FROM SPEAKOUT CAMPAIGN

WRITE TO YOUR MP

 today and visit

www.speakout.co.uk

 

 

 

WHY THE BRITISH PEOPLE MUST HAVE THEIR REFERENDUM

telegraph.co.uk/eureferendum

 ON

 EUROPE

 

Daily Mail

COMMENT

 

[Wednesday, July 25,2007]

The Moral Case for an

EU REFERENDUM

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Labour voters ready to rebel in row over a Euro referendum

by

Jane Merrick

Political Correspondent

 

[Daily Mail, Monday, August 20,2007]

 

HOW WE SEE THE REVISED CONSTITUTION

 

 

 

THE NEW EU CONSTITUTION-PART 1

AND

12-POINT SUMMARY

OF

EU CONSTITUTION

 

 

 

By Anthony Coughlan

AND

 British Vote No! Campaign-

www.vote.no.com

Anthony Coughlan

Secretary
The National Platform EU Research and Information Centre
24 Crawford Ave.
Dublin 9
Ireland
Tel: 00-353-1-8305792
 

 

 

 

EUROPE

AND A

CONSPIRACY OF SILENCE

 

By SIMON HEFFER

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 Treaty changes designed only to sell document

TRUTH

from Dr Garret FitzGerald, former Irish Taoiseach and leading member of the [PRO-EU] international European Movement writing in the Irish Times on 30th June 2007.

" As for the changes now proposed to be made to the constitutional treaty, most are presentational changes that have no effect.

They have simply been designed to enable certain heads of government [YOU KNOW WHO] to sell to their people the idea of ratification by parliamentary action rather than by

REFERENDUM....

telegraph.co.uk/eureferendum

" Apart from a brief, last - minute postponement (designed to buy off Polish opposition) of the introduction of a new system of qualified majority voting [QMV], the remaining adjustments to be made to the treaty signed in 2004-but still not ratified by nine member states are essentially presentational and have no perceptible legal effect."

Eurofacts-July 27-2007

www.junepress.com

 

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BUT at July 27th-2007-

The British Government will not reveal the

FULL TRUTH

 of the consequences of the TREATY

to the British people or hold a REFERENDUM

telegraph.co.uk/eureferendum

which the

GOVERNMENT

PROMISED.

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On the 5th October, 2007

Anthony Coughlan

 


Secretary
The National Platform EU Research and Information Centre
24 Crawford Ave.
Dublin 9
Ireland
Tel: 00-353-1-8305792
 

 

[See above for www.vote.no.com]

A letter to Eurofacts

Why the Constitution Matters.

Dear Sir.

May I express to you the opinion that it is a big mistake of democrats and EU critics in Britain and internationally to neglect to draw attention to the fact that the proposed new

EU CONSTITUTIONAL TREATY

would establish what would be a

NEW EUROPEAN UNION

-in effect

A STATE

and would make us all real citizens of this

NEW SUPRANATIONAL STATE

-for the first time, with real citizens' duties and obligations to the

NEW UNION.

The message has the potential, it seems to me of

"getting through"

to ordinary citizens as no other aspect of the EU TREATY has. It shows convincingly why the

NEW TREATY

would really bring into being an

EU CONSTITUTION

and a

SUPRANATIONAL EU FEDERATION

built upon that.

 

But this point, so far as one can see, is scarcely ever mentioned in EU-critical propaganda against the

NEW TREATY

THAT IS RATHER BAFFLING.

It is very important to grasp that under its provisions the

EUROPEAN COUNCIL

the quarterly EU summit meetings, would become a formal

 EU "INSTITUTION"

whose acts, and failures to act, would be subject to review by the

COURT of JUSTICE

as with any EU/EC institution

Your readers will agree, I am sure, that it is quite important that the EU summit meetings of

EU HEADS of STATE or GOVERNMENT

acting "intergovernmentally", but that the latter would - at least if they act in accordance with their obligations under the

NEW TREATY

-be expected to have their

EU HATS

ON ALL THE TIME,

COLLECTIVELY and INDIVIDUALLY.

 

Also under the

NEW TREATY

the members of the

EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT

would become representatives

"of the citizens"

of the

NEW UNION

not of the peoples

of the

EC MEMBER STATES

as hereto, which is an indicator of the

CONSTITUTIONAL CHANGE

THE TREATY WOULD BRING.

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Anthony Coughlan.

Secretary
The National Platform EU Research and Information Centre
24 Crawford Ave.
Dublin 9
Ireland
Tel: 00-353-1-8305792
 

 

[See above for www.vote.no.com]

 

[Since the emergence of the EDP in 1994 we have constantly put the above case to the British people. But it appears that until recently few wished to face the TRUTH of the LOSS of their COUNTRY to be replaced by the creation of a Frankenstein monster in the shape of a corrupt unaccountable police state calling itself

THE UNITED STATES OF EUROPE.

The TRUTH was known 40 years ago and by the majority of politicians and all prime ministers ever since but the public was to be hoodwinked until the trap was finally set and that  occurred in October, 2007.

The millions of the' ELITE 'in the 27 countries are determined that the majority of the people within the EU must not be made aware of the dangers until the NEW TREATY is finally ratified in ALL the member states.

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THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN-IS THE EU COMMISSION LISTENING?

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Ditch the EU TREATY after IRISH REJECTION

SAY VOTERS

by

Daniel Martin

Political Reporter

[Daily Mail-Wednesday, June 18,2008]

MORE THAN HALF of voters believe Britain should drop the controversial European Treaty in the wake of its rejection in last week's

IRISH REFERENDUM'

The poll comes as the Tories launch a last-ditch bid in the

HOUSE of LORDS

today to delay the

RATIFICATION OF THE TREATY.

And

10,000 people

have signed a

PETITION

on the

DOWNING STREET- WEBSITE

within the past few days

JUNE16-2008

, calling on the

GOVERNMENT

NOT TO RATIFY THE BILL

[WHY DON'T YOU?]

 

Downing Street website is

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Abandon-Lisbon/

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JUNE 18-2008

 

 

 

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